a naked paradise, you say?

[quote="VF5SS"]I submit that episodes 5 and 6 should be linked together for maximum enjoyment much like how Sonic 3 and Sonic and Knuckles combine to create the ultimate Genesis Sonic game.

You're failing to mention that Sonic is a terrible franchise.

YEAH. IF QFT MEANS YOU'RE A QUEER FUCK TWAT.

Ahem...


I'm sorry, that was unnecessary.

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I don't think either of us watch enough TV nowadays to talk about it. I hardly watch any, and most of it is stuff Graz is watching and I'm just there.

I fail to see how that's appropriate.

[quote="Dave"]I don't think either of us watch enough TV nowadays to talk about it. I hardly watch any, and most of it is stuff Graz is watching and I'm just there.
What about 30 Rock.
I would recommend hulu.

[quote="RobotBastard"]What about BUFFY?

OH wait that's right you still want to pretend that you're not whipped.
He has to hold his ground.

I think he means you aren't getting laid RB.

I'm preserving my potency for the right girl. When it happens, look out, because it's gonna be, like, whoa.

[quote="Neito"][quote="Dave"][quote="RobotBastard"]OH wait that's right you still want to pretend that you're not whipped.

It's funny how people on the internet who aren't getting any will play the 'whipped' card so immediately.

I'm just sayin'.It's because we don't know what it's like, and therefore assume it has magical powers, Dave.

We do not assume, it is a fact.

[quote="RobotBastard"]I'm preserving my potency for the right girl. When it happens, look out, because it's gonna be, like, whoa.

You mean you're a hopeless nerd who doesn't talk to women at all, right?

[quote="grumps"][quote="RobotBastard"]What about BUFFY?

OH wait that's right you still want to pretend that you're not whipped.
f u c k
y o u

Have you weaned him onto Angel or Firefly yet? I loved Angel way more than Buffy, but found I had to know some stuff about what went on in that series to understand a lot of the cooler elements of Angel.

[quote="The Joel"]RB, I did the same thing and it worked out. That's right, I never had sex before marriage and, despite Karaoke Ninja's odds against it, I plan on only ever having sex with one woman in my entire life. Its crazy but its working for me.

Also, I am pretty much totally whipped.

I'd say the whippage isn't entirely against you.

[quote="The Joel"]RB, I did the same thing and it worked out. That's right, I never had sex before marriage and, despite Karaoke Ninja's odds against it, I plan on only ever having sex with one woman in my entire life. Its crazy but its working for me.

Also, I am pretty much totally whipped.


This harkens back to April fools of past years! It's like you are reading Dave's Diss for him

OK, a of you men (whipped or not whipped). Some comment was made at the end of the show that I took personally!

This idea of only liking something "ironically", what the hell does that mean?

Daryl and I independently of each other decided some time ago that this thing of liking something ironically is both stupid and will cause you to have sex with your mother, let me explain.

When you say you like something in an ironic sense what does that mean? Generally what it means is that you have too much PRIDE to just come out and say that you like something that might be a little bit low brow. Why not just say you like it or you don't like it? Everything in the world is either entertaining to me in one way or another or not. That's it, there's no other criteria for me. I can be entertained by deep, slow, and meaningful entertainment and I can be entertained by vapid pointless crap, and everyone out there can be (at least everyone who is not absolutely horrible to be around).

To keep up with the "ironic" like of things is to extend ones pride too far, and we know what that causes right? HUBRIS! And you all know what happened to Oedipus because of hubris right!?

Therefore, I say we stop this silly "ironic" like of things and say we either like it or we don't, no irony needed.

[quote="Lucky"]I don't think Dave will be really whipped untill he can't do the podcast anymore because it keeps cutting into "Cuddle Time".
I dont cuddle. And this whipped bullshit is pissing me off.

[quote="Teabagapotamus"]OK, a of you men (whipped or not whipped). Some comment was made at the end of the show that I took personally!

This idea of only liking something "ironically", what the hell does that mean?


i kindof agree that theres not so clear a distinction... but that doesnt mean that the distinction is totally absent...it reminded me of this slightly unrelated thing i read...
"It’s one of the dubious beauties of ironic humour that you can have your retrograde politics and laugh at them too (see: Anchor Man, “ironic racism”). Is it funny to call someone “retarded”? Sure, the thinking goes, as long as the person you’re talking about is not actually mentally disabled and the way you say it makes it clear that you’re playing with a p.c. language taboo and sort-of mocking people who would use such a retrograde term in the first place. But really, too—you get to say retarded and conjure the image of that poor helpless down’s syndrome kid you thought was such a laugh in grade three, and you get to laugh about it, and get away with it. How cool is that?

And, of course, as many have said before me (the first I read it was in a Glasgow Phillips essay in Might magazine called “Shiny Adidas Track Suits and the Death of Camp”,[3] though it was probably well remarked on before then) there’s a problem with irony as a prevailing cultural lingua franca beyond the often offensive subtext. It’s summed up in that famous scene in The Simpsons:
Teen1: Oh, here comes that cannonball guy. He’s cool.
Teen2: Are you being sarcastic, dude?
Teen1: I don’t even know anymore.
I don’t even know anymore. This could sum up the entire foundation on which is built the worldview of nearly everyone under 40 in North America.[4]"

anyway, thats from the Act Like a Man blog....

[quote="grumps"][quote="Teabagapotamus"]OK, a of you men (whipped or not whipped). Some comment was made at the end of the show that I took personally!

This idea of only liking something "ironically", what the hell does that mean?


i kindof agree that theres not so clear a distinction... but that doesnt mean that the distinction is totally absent...it reminded me of this slightly unrelated thing i read...
"It’s one of the dubious beauties of ironic humour that you can have your retrograde politics and laugh at them too (see: Anchor Man, “ironic racism”). Is it funny to call someone “retarded”? Sure, the thinking goes, as long as the person you’re talking about is not actually mentally disabled and the way you say it makes it clear that you’re playing with a p.c. language taboo and sort-of mocking people who would use such a retrograde term in the first place. But really, too—you get to say retarded and conjure the image of that poor helpless down’s syndrome kid you thought was such a laugh in grade three, and you get to laugh about it, and get away with it. How cool is that?

And, of course, as many have said before me (the first I read it was in a Glasgow Phillips essay in Might magazine called “Shiny Adidas Track Suits and the Death of Camp”,[3] though it was probably well remarked on before then) there’s a problem with irony as a prevailing cultural lingua franca beyond the often offensive subtext. It’s summed up in that famous scene in The Simpsons:
Teen1: Oh, here comes that cannonball guy. He’s cool.
Teen2: Are you being sarcastic, dude?
Teen1: I don’t even know anymore.
I don’t even know anymore. This could sum up the entire foundation on which is built the worldview of nearly everyone under 40 in North America.[4]"

anyway, thats from the Act Like a Man blog....

Sometimes things are meant to be appreciated ironically, though. And the people who fail to pick up on this seem just as clueless as people who label every guilty pleasure as "ironic."

Case in point: the Adam West Batman series. A lot of people call it cheesey and ridicule it without realizing that it was already making fun of itself. They patronize those who found it entertaining without realizing that they're really the ones who weren't sophisticated enough to get the joke. Batman was one of those shows where you could either appreciate it on its basest level or laugh at its highbrowed, ironic postmodernist humor, but if you fell somewhere in between and took everything at face value, you were left out.

[quote="The Joel"]I think I say things like that only to piss off Daryl.
That always make sense

I don't think I like things ironically, I like things specifically because they are stupid. For example, I love Zombi 2. It is a movie where a zombie fights a shark. It has bad acting and unconvincing special effects. It is really pretty dumb. But I love it for exactly those reasons. It's not, "Oh, I sometimes like base things that aren't intellectual", it's "this is so goofy and stupid I love it". That's not ironic appreciation.

Ironic appreciation is like, "Oh, I absolutely LOVE Biker Mice From Mars. It is definitely a glimpse into the American political zeitgeist circa 1991." That sarcastic, pseudo-intellectual tone where you apply big words you learned writing 5 paragraph essays to something childish and stupid is way snottier than going, "Hahahaha I can't believe that this movie features a racist, amnesiac, suicidal, impotent robot couple."

This is why our reviews of movies like Black Belt Jones are full of things like, "I can't believe she called him a sick faggot!" and not, "Black Belt Jones is clearly a 1970's minstrel show, parading African Americans around like clowns for the amusement of upper middle class white America, equally as insulting as Sambo characters."

[quote="Gokiburi_Chachacha"]Also, Firefly is half a show at best, and the half that is good isn't all that good. Yes, the prostitute planet episode was terrible, but so was the SPACE RUSSIAN story-line, and the de-River-tive main plot, and the entire character of Enora.

Why is it so odd that there were Russians in space? For awhile, they were the only ones in space.

The SPACE RUSSIAN story-line was the one with the evil Russian Mafioso...IN SPACE! Lamest villain ever.

Wash was a great character. Mal was a great character. Jaine was a greater character. Book was a great character. River and Enora were terrible and uninteresting, yet they got so much screen time.

I thought the bounty hunter in the last episode was one of the best characters in the series. Weirdly charismatic, funny and disturbing. I feel like we would have seen more of him if the show had survived, despite his predicament at the end of the episode.

River got a little annoying at times, but that seemed appropriate to me. Isn't she basically the irrational foil to the Serenity crew's hard-luck pragmatism? River in the movie, on the other hand, not as good.

[quote="Dave"]Word. You don't say bad things about Robinette.

I don't understand the flagrant hate-on for this show that's going on here...It's been around for about four years, it's overdue for an internet backlash.