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  • I would say his most accessible, which isn't saying too much, work is Hardboiled Wonderland.
  • anybody read Dean Koontz's Odd Thomas series? I've been hearing good things about it and thinking of reading it since the 4th book just came out
  • I dug the first book quite a bit, but it seemed to lose its charm for me with the second one. I haven't read three or four.
  • terry pratchett. i have read them all.
  • I just finished reading Doug Naylor's Red Dwarf:Last Human Pretty Good Read. Before that i got 5 chapters into The Hitchhkiers Guide To The Galaxy and misplaced the book :( maybe i should be looking for it, but i have neither the will nor awakenness to do so.
  • Did Red Dwarf come before the TV series?
  • there are 4 Red Dwarf books all out of the TV continuity, 2 co-written by both creators of the TV show, the first of which was released at a similar time as the TV show. The second 2 books each written by one of the Creators split off from the end of the 2nd book. all the books use ideas from the TV show and expand on them somewhat.
  • Red Dwarf is fun <img class=" title="In Love" />
  • I'm still waiting for the Red Dwarf movie. It's been promised for about as long as Duke Nukem Forever.
  • "MCBurnett" said:
    I read a lot of nonfiction. I'm such a This American Life whore. . .
    Good its not just me <img class=" title="In Love" />
    "Panzer Tiger" said:
    I'm still waiting for the Red Dwarf movie. .
    I'll be first in line for that.
    I felt my heart sink when I heard the interview on AWO with Helen McCarthy and she used the example of 'why Red Dwarf wasn't brought to the states' --she was right on all points, but I would like Hollywood to stop being incestious, and put out a Brit movie without 'americanization' (HGTTG)

    :ahem:

    I just read 1984 -- wow, what a great read. I am really into the dystopia thing and this is the best.
    I tried to read Bradbury's The Martian Chronicles ...but I couldn't take the flowery non sequitur style.

    So now I am reading The Invisible Man by Wells.

    Not sure what to do next...(been on a reading kick) Maybe Animal Farm - because it is another Orwell book or The Final Problem - Because Sherlock Holmes v. Professor Moriarty
  • If you've seen the American pilot of Red Dwarf you'll know that it's horrible. There is a very good documentary about it on one of the seasons of Red Dwarf DVDs. They really tried hard to screw it up and they did...spectacularly.

    Your book selection sounds like it comes from a summer reading list. Not that any of those books are bad. If you haven't already you should read Catch 22. Also if I remember correctly isn't Martian Chronicles very short? About as long as Fahrenheit 451?
  • Thats a good reason to pick up the DVD. I have the whole series on VHS...this might be the nudge I need to switch over finally.

    I am not much of a WWII buff so Catch-22 was a consideration, but not a fav.

    ...and yes The Martian Chronicles and Fahrenheit 451 are both kinda shortish, but that doesn't tell the quality of a book.

    Yeah my short list does seem like a 'summer reader' guide because I recently come to the realization that there are many good books out there that are classics that I have never read.

    Any other recommendations?
  • I also had most of the series on vhs but the dvds are definitely worth it. There are tons of extras on each season (including all the smeg ups) and a documentary (usually running over 90 minutes long) for almost every season.

    Catch 22 is all about catch 22 and the dialog. It's classic. I wouldn't let the backdrop of WWII stop you from reading it.

    As for other books definitely read Animal Farm if you have it. Also some more books you should read if you haven't already: 1984, Brave New World, All Quiet On the Western Front, Honkey, A Handmaid's Tale, Deathwatch, Vengeance, Catcher in the Rye, Parable of the Sower, and a lot more. That should get you started.
  • Can anyone who has the DVDs tell me which one that is? I use Netflix for my DVD watching, they have (had?) all of Red Dwarf online. I'd really like to avoid getting random DVDs until I found it.
  • I just looked and Season 5 has the documentary about the US pilot. It's really interesting to see how the original guys tried to save it but the US execs just kept fucking it up. You can watch the pilot itself on youtube if you want to. It's a curiosity piece but it's very odd in the context of the original Red Dwarf and painfully bad. If you dare: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwymOX6ey_g
  • "RobotBastard" said:
    "Kavalier and Clay": I kind of lost interest during the part in the Arctic, which beats out George R. R. Martin for "most instances of something horrible coming out of fucking nowhere and happening to a character you really like".
    Just finished this, and yeah, it felt grimly sidetracked during that part, but otherwise it was pretty much great. Even though the story had reached it's conclusion I think I would have been happy to keep following the character's lives. Has anybody read the Escapist comics Dark Horse put out? I'm wondering if they're worth checking out.
  • The Escapists by Brian K. Vaughan was awesome. I think it did a good job following up the story of the book in a realistic way. Although part of that may be my BKV fanboyism talking.
  • Bought this after hearing Shawn Elliot recommend it on a recent GFW podcast. Haven't started it yet (reading Blink), but it sounds good. Anyone here read it?
  • Can anyone suggest any post-apocalyptic future books or the loss of civilisation? Something along the lines of the Day of the Triffids and I am Legend.
  • How about "A Canticle For Leibowitz"?
  • How about "A Canticle For Leibowitz"?
    That book is in my top ten. I just read it last month and loved every minute of it.

    World War Z is also pretty good.
  • That's by Max Brooks right?
    Does it follow the same style of the historical accounts at the end of the Survival Guide or is written as a novel?
  • Currently reading Blood Music (And doing it at a snails pace)

    I'd like to read Tomino's Gundam novel at some point. I hear its alot better than the TV Series or the Movie Trilogy.
  • That's a lie. Tomino's Gundam novels are very, very dry and not very fun. The movies are way better.
  • "karaokeninja" said:
    That's a lie. Tomino's Gundam novels are very, very dry and not very fun. The movies are way better.
    Then I guess GunDamn! lied to me... <img class=" title="Crying or Very sad" />

    I'd still like to read them, see what Tomino's original vision for Mobile Suit Gundam was.
  • Tomino's original vision of Gundam involves Amuro trying to make a good luck amulet out of Sayla's pubic hair, from what I've heard.

    Oh, Japan. :roll:
  • Hey, that is steeped in Japanese traditions. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
  • "Gokiburi_Chachacha" said:
    Tomino's original vision of Gundam involves Amuro trying to make a good luck amulet out of Sayla's pubic hair, from what I've heard.

    And that is why Tomino is the best Writer AND director in all of anime.

    That that Gerald!
  • Yes, the pube scene is in the books for sure. It's interesting as an alternate version where
    Spoiler:
    Amuro dies
    but far inferior to the movies and TV show, but mostly the movies.
  • Yeah, my opinion of Tomino as a storyteller started out real high then slowly fell. Gundam was amazing, but then I saw Brain Powerd and Turn A Gundam... Now, I have no problems with space opera that has a high body count, but looking back at Ideon, I can't imagine that it's anything but an infantile precursor to End of Evangelion where a director with issues
    Spoiler:
    graphically kills all of his characters
    in a masturbatory emotional catharsis. You can tell he enjoys kicking the sandcastle over as much as he likes building it, so I think that's kind of lame.
    Spoiler:
    I mean, did he think he was writing Greek tragedy killing Amuro in the novels?
  • I really don't mind Tomino killing people off in his shows, at least in Gundam. I think it worked in Zeta, I found that an extremely emotional finale.
    Spoiler:
    Lalah dying in Gundam also worked very well.


    He went pretty overboard in V Gundam. I really think the only reason he made that was to piss off Bandai. I haven't seen Ideon but DAPDX'S review made it sound terrible.

    Sometimes I think people make Tomino out to be a worse director than he is, but looking at it he has made more bad shows than good.
  • I think the problem with Tomino is that he has never met another human being. I think his life is completely without emotional relationships. He's never met a woman! How can he be expected to write one?!
  • How is that possible? I'm sure there's plenty of female Gundam Wing fans willing to give him a beej.
  • You fail, Dave.
  • My only problem with Tomino is that he seems to be telling the same exact story over and over again. Aura Battle Dunbine was essentially Gundam with magic-powered mecha and alternate dimensions instead of deep space. They even did the New Type precognitive flashes in the exact same way, for Pete's sake.
  • Zeta Gundam is the same story as L-Gaim. Most of the characters even have analogues.

    Like you know, Full Flat = Haman Khan.
  • To be fair, he did seperate himself from his old quirks with some of his new anime, like Turn A and Overman King Gainer.

    Turn A was a Gundam series with none of the tropes of his past ones. Very different characters and even mecha Design. King Gainer was surpisingly funny, which makes a change from the ussual melodramatic doom and gloom in his shows.

    I haven't seen L-Gaim or Aura Battler Dunbine, so there's a good chance I haven't seen enough of his stuff to get tired of his directing style. Either way, I can thank him for the Gundam series. The good and the bad.
  • Tomino has been bitter since Mamoru Nagano stole his woman.
  • Tomino has been bitter since Mamoru Nagano stole his woman.
    An amazing feat, considering how much of a closet case Nagano is...

    I wish I could find that picture of Nagano and his workspace, with the enormous glossy of Prince, naked, taking center stage on his desk...
  • I thought the best part of Gainer was the opening theme, that song and dance cracks me up every time.
  • "Gokiburi_Chachacha" said:

    An amazing feat, considering how much of a closet case Nagano is...
    Where's the closeting? He wears frilly clothes and dances around fields of dandelions.
  • The Road
    by Cormac McCarthy
  • That is a good book.
  • "Gokiburi_Chachacha" said:

    I wish I could find that picture of Nagano and his workspace, with the enormous glossy of Prince, naked, taking center stage on his desk...
    That was Araki's workplace. You know, the guy who draws JoJo's Bizarre Adventure? Nagano just has lots of custom guitars and a huge collection of vinyl records.
  • Just finished the 'Top 10' by Alan Moore graphic novels, half way through 'The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: Black Dossier'.

    I finished the Moriarty story and am now also reading 'The Mysterious Stranger' short by Mark Twain....I just had to after finding out about it.

    After all this: 'Animal Farm'
  • That was Araki's workplace. You know, the guy who draws JoJo's Bizarre Adventure? Nagano just has lots of custom guitars and a huge collection of vinyl records
    Doh, my mistake.

    Cormac McCarthy can still eat a dick. I hate that guy and everything he writes.

    I read about half of The Autobiography of Malcolm X. Then I read about half of the science fiction novel Schismatrix. Now it looks like I'm going to read about half of another Bruce Sterling novel, Islands in the Net.

    I've had a hard time maintaining interest in anything all the way through recently.
  • I went to a this book recycling store and found 7 out of 8 Wild Cards Novels for like $3.50 each so now im going to see if George R.R. Martin's old writing sucks or not.
  • I hear that Wild Cards is pretty unilaterally terrible.
  • Good thing i only paid about $30 for the entire series.
  • Dean Koontz wrote another fucking Odd Thomas book. I need to read it, now, on top of Snowcrash, 1984, American Gods and... erm Metal Gear Solid (lol). On top of that, because the title has "Odd" in it, I bought the... Odd Thomas manga.
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