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Books, I read them ...
  • My girlfriend (and most of the women I'm now around because of her) is reading "50 Shades of Grey"... A few times I've grabbed the Kindle when she puts it down and read the current page out loud. It's terrible. Spanks is right.
  • Though I guess erotica's primary purpose is to titillate, so the terrible prose quality may be beside the point if it gets the reader's motor running.
  • Well, I just looked it up to make sure I got that title right and find it began it's existence as Twilight fanfic...
  • Reading Gene Wolfe's 'Peace'. I first heard about it described as a horror story hidden under a Midwestern memoir.
  • Got about 60% through the first book in the destroyer series http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Destroyer_(fiction) .... It was pretty much standard male action pulpy-ness it even had an old kungfu master teaching an assassin. And that stuff was good! but then it got reeeeaaaallly creepy with the sex stuff. And I'm not that squeamish. I mean liked altered carbon and can usually tolerate Heinlen. But maaaan..... I don't think I can finish the book.
  • #104 "Angry White Mailmen"

    ???
  • I know there are a few other 'John Dies at the End' fans here, so you guys may also be interested in this.

    http://www.johndiesattheend.com/updates/?p=1624

    http://www.johndiesattheend.com/updates/?p=1636

    Alternate reality game where you can read up to 10% of 'This Book is Full of Spiders' and win free shit.
  • Also picked up a few of the old Doc Savage books today. Never read any of them before, so I got no idea what to expect from them.
  • Started Don DeLillo's 'Cosmopolis', but after Jonathan Lethem's book of essays I felt like a break from postmodern white guys and instead switched to postmodern Italians with Umberto Eco's 'Name Of The Rose', which I've had sitting on my shelf for a year or two now. Highly enjoying it so far, and I've got a whole buncha books that look interesting to come afterward. It's actually been awhile since I've been on such a reading spree, feels good to get back in literary shape, as it were.
  • I just ordered 'John Dies at the End' and 'House of Leaves' since you guys talked about both of them here. Also because Amazon suggested them together. I guess I am a sucker for advertising.
  • Finished The Pale King (David Foster Wallace).

    Don't know what to do now. Best 'posthumous unfinished novel' I've read.
  • I've been reading Wind in the Willows to my son. For a children's book, it's got a decent bit of depth.
  • "Decent bit"? Just wait til you get to "The Piper At The Gates of Dawn." God that book is so good. Wonder whatever happened to my copy? Should probably go out and get a new one.
  • I'm trying to put together a summer reading list. I'm not looking to follow any themes, just books that I've been meaning to read for a while but have never gotten around to. So far my list is as follows

    1. The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula Le Guin
    2. Idylls of the King - Alfred Lord Tennyson
    3. Prelude to Foundation - Isaac Asimov (If this book is unnecessary, I could skip to Foundation)
    4. Snow Country - Yasunari Kawabata
    5. The Sea Wolf - Jack London
    6. A Burnt Out Case - Graham Greene

    I could probably fit another book or two on there. Anything you guys think I should add or subtract.
  • kaazuwulf said:

    I'm trying to put together a summer reading list. I'm not looking to follow any themes, just books that I've been meaning to read for a while but have never gotten around to. So far my list is as follows

    1. The Left Hand of Darkness - Ursula Le Guin
    2. Idylls of the King - Alfred Lord Tennyson
    3. Prelude to Foundation - Isaac Asimov (If this book is unnecessary, I could skip to Foundation)
    4. Snow Country - Yasunari Kawabata
    5. The Sea Wolf - Jack London
    6. A Burnt Out Case - Graham Greene

    I could probably fit another book or two on there. Anything you guys think I should add or subtract.



    Do you read Michael Chabon or Nick Hornby?
  • I would read the Foundation novels in publication order, not chronological order.
  • ^
    Foundation it is!

    ^^
    I have not read either of them.
  • p.s. - I should have prefaced that I have never read the Foundation series, but I plan to (in publication order).
  • I wish you luck. I failed out 1.5 books in. That series is like the most boring parts of the Dune series put together.

    Re-reading Neuromancer, this time in audiobook format, just to see if it lives up to my teenage recollection. So far, it's holding up pretty well. The one sore thumb that's sticking out at me is the character of Molly... A pretty capable, self-made character whose sole flaw seems to be that she's attracted to loser protagonists of William Gibson stories to further the plot and also provide sex scenes.
  • I know this is gonna sound weird.

    But I have a really vivid memory of some line in Neuromancer where she circles her fingers around the base of his dick while they're both high on drugs.

    Uguuuu.
  • I don't remember Molly getting high. Might be me just adding a dislike of her "losing her edge" though.
  • Yeah, thanks Dave, I'd forgotten about that. What is it with SF writers and their insistent need to describe sex in these explicit-yet-clinical terms?
  • Well, maybe just Case was high. I mostly remember the extremely explicit dick circling.

    But, per RB, I'm pretty sure he said "penis." Also, "flaccid" was probably involved.
  • Dave said:

    But, per RB, I'm pretty sure he said "penis." Also, "flaccid" was probably involved.



    Just got to the first sex scene, it was
    Spoiler:
    scrotum.
  • My memory fails me, then.

    I feel I should be proud of that. :D
  • Now that I have finished 'Hard Boiled Wonderland', about to start in on Ursula Le Guin's 'The Left Hand of Darkness'. I've been meaning to read this for years, so let's hope it lives up to the hype.
  • Also just received a copy of the major works of Lord Byron, so I've been paging through that this afternoon. I'm a sucker for the romantic poets.
  • Finished 'The Left Hand of Darkness'. Of all the science fiction/fantasy books I've read, this is probably my favorite. It is slow and ponderous, yet very satisfying. If you are unfamiliar with the book, It is about a political envoy trying to get a planet, whose entirety of the human population is hermaphroditic, to join what is called the Ekumen (a sort of space UN). It is also far more then that. If you are looking for laser guns and monsters, this may not be a book for you.
  • Next on my reading list, Alfred, Lord Tennyson's 'Idylls of the King'. Arthurian legend, elegiac poetry, and allegory on Victorian England? What is not to like.
  • I've had this sitting around for a while.Picture is bigger than anticipated

    I've been looking forward to it.

    Edit: Fixed. Thanks Nick.
  • http://imgur.com/la8qHl

    Basically, slap an lowercase L onto it, forum resizes large pics anyway tho.
  • Franzen released a collection of essays, Farther Away.

    Enjoyable.
  • Just got to the part in Good Omens where the kids try to do their own Spanish Inquisition. I gods this book is so many flavors of good.
  • kaazuwulf said:

    Just got to the part in Good Omens where the kids try to do their own Spanish Inquisition. I gods this book is so many flavors of good.



    Yeah, one of my faves. Especially the "Fat Bottomed Girls" phenomenon.
  • The paintball game had me rolling.
  • About 70 pages into The Corrections by Jonathan Franzen.
    Liking it so far
  • It's a great novel. With exception to the dancing poo bit.
  • I've started getting into the short stories of Flannery O'Connor. 'A Good Man is Hard to Find' is an excellent story. The book I have has all her stories in chronological order, so now that I have read 'A Good Man', I guess I will start at the beginning with 'The Geranium'. Anyone read her before?
  • The River is my favorite story by her.
  • She's amazing; I need to pick up that Library of America complete works collection again and finish it at some point.
  • She's on that growing list of authors I need to, but haven't read.
  • I will check out The River next. Just finished 'The Geranium', and damn it was good. I read that she rewrote it a few times later in her career. I bought a book of her complete short stories for like, maybe $10. So worth it.
  • Flannery O'Connor is excellent.
  • The River made me very angry.
  • Any particular reason? Most of her stuff is pretty tragic.
  • I have no problem with tragic, it is the whole the child is better off dead since he was more or less tricked into become a christian and now he doesn't have to live with those horrible neglectful atheists. Not that the religious people where portrayed that much better (seriously, what type of person tell a child that now that he is baptized he counts, and that before he didn't.) I looked up some stuff on the story cause I was thinking there is no way this could be the point of it and she even says that the that " He comes to a good end. He's saved from those nutty parents, a fate worse than death. He's been baptized and so he goes to his Maker; this is a good end." As an atheist, I find this utterly reprehensible.

    http://books.google.com/books?id=M8oj8_UhyT4C&lpg=PA58&ots=jpBWjrCtc1&dq=comes to a good end. He's saved from those nutty parents, a fate worse than death. He's been baptized and so he goes to his Maker; this is a good end."&pg=PA58#v=onepage&q&f=false
  • Incase someone wants to read the story.
    http://www.doxaweb.com/assets/The_River.pdf
  • J.K. Rowling has a new book coming out, and this one is aimed at adults (you could argue that the later harry potter books where more for adults then kids). Anyone else planning on picking this up? It comes out a week before 'This Book is full of Spiders', so I will probably put it off till after I finish that, but I do love the harry potter books, so I am very hopeful for this.
  • I didn't realize that, and I would agree that like many good kids' movies, there's a level that works for adults as well in Harry Potter.

    I'm trying to keep my expectations low, Rowling isn't that interesting stylistically or thematically, but her storytelling skills make up for it, IMO. And honestly, that's all a good Tom Clancy book has going for it.