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  • Not really nerdy. Maybe if Bludhaven got blown up 40 years ago, but that happened at least 2 years ago in a major event.
  • Sinestro Corp: Superman Prime one-shot. Pete Woods on art, Geoff John writing it. . . sooooo good.
  • "MCBurnett" said:
    Sinestro Corp: Superman Prime one-shot. Pete Woods on art, Geoff John writing it. . . sooooo good.
    Is it out? It looks like he goes after the Flash.
  • I mostly read webcomics, but I follow a few series in print. Come to think of it, I really need to get down to my comicbook shop again sometime...

    I like the realistic stuff like XIII, Alfa and IRS, and there's a few really good Dutch comics. Besides that I have about every book about Calvin and Hobbes, Peanuts, Dilbert and Citizen Dog, and my uncle used to occasionally dump a bunch of Gen13 comics on me. They were pretty allright, but [seinfeld alert] what is up with every American 'superhero' comic being drawn in exactly the same style? I mean, I like the art, but I can hardly distinguish my Witchblade from my Fathom.

    And in-comic advertisements = the fail.

    Let me tell you, the French? They have comics down packed.
  • Well, there's definitely a superhero look, but I wouldn't think of Witchblade or Fathom being the definition of the superhero look. I think you're talking about the scantily clad female cheesecake super heroine.

    I can tell you that skottie young does not draw in the same style as what you would consider typical. I just threw that one name out because I don't have my comics handy at the moment.
  • I mean, I like the art, but I can hardly distinguish my Witchblade from my Fathom.
    Well, both of those are drawn/created by Michael Turner, so that may be why.

    I think to some extent, Marvel and DC try to maintain a "house" style for consistency, but give great artists some leeway. Chris Bachalo (everyone is SUPER POUTY) and Joe Mad (square jaws and gritted teeth) are two artists I can name from the big two. If you go to the indie stuff, there's a lot more stylized art too, since they typically don't have as much editorial mandate for consistency.
  • Also, largo, your label of "American comic" seems to refer to just the big two. Maybe indie comics are more your fit. You can find some variety there.
  • http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u87/Sheol777/thebatman.jpg
    I mourned the loss of Justice League Unlimited as one of the few american shows with decent writing going for it.

    ...I tried to watch The Batman when it first aired and then I gave up on it. I have one question...

    WHEN DID THIS SHOW START GETTING GOOD!?

    I recently saw an episode and decided to grab a couple with my DVR and was I happy I did!
  • I think that people who have gotten into watching it will give credit to the Boy Wonder for making the show good. It started off trying to be different and focus more on action, but then they gave you dick grayson's backstory and The Batman got interesting.

    No, it's not JLU or Batman: TAS, but it's better than when it started out.

    What I really like on the WB is Legion of Superheroes, especially since I don't know much about the Legion.
  • "Sheol777" said:
    I mourned the loss of Justice League Unlimited as one of the few american shows with decent writing going for it
    My dad almost cried when he couldn't watch it anymore.

    Now I have Boomerang, and it's on a lot. I win this time, Dad.

    But not enough Flash in Unlimited, but it was still good.
  • "TheProX20" said:
    [quote="Sheol777"]I mourned the loss of Justice League Unlimited as one of the few american shows with decent writing going for it
    My dad almost cried when he couldn't watch it anymore.

    Now I have Boomerang, and it's on a lot. I win this time, Dad.

    But not enough Flash in Unlimited, but it was still good.[/quote]

    The best episode of Justice League was the Christmas episode and the final one just before Justice League Unlimited.

    Man, I would like to see an animated version of Infinite Crisis
  • "Spankminister" said:
    I think to some extent, Marvel and DC try to maintain a "house" style for consistency, but give great artists some leeway. Chris Bachalo (everyone is SUPER POUTY) and Joe Mad (square jaws and gritted teeth) are two artists I can name from the big two. If you go to the indie stuff, there's a lot more stylized art too, since they typically don't have as much editorial mandate for consistency.
    You're right, I have more of a problem with the whole Marvel/Top Cow/DC/Dark Horse/Wizard sort of house style in general. I think a lot has to do with the coloring aswell, that slick airbrushed feel, often the same color tones, and the way crosshatching is used especially. Little details. Because still, looking at some art from BattleChasers(Mad) for instance, I don't see much difference from what is considered 'American' style. Obviously the indie scene is a lot different from the mainstream in terms of style, and arguably it's produced some of the most important comics out there (Maus, Road to Perdition, Blankets), but I'm not really counting indie comics as specifically American.

    But I'll gladly be proven wrong, I'm always looking for interesting franchises from other cultures. My example of Witchblade and Fathom may have helped considering they turned(lol pun) out to be drawn by the same artist. :) I just used those since I recalled those are the only comics apart from Gen13, Crimson, Danger Girl and Tomb Raider I have.

    I guess part of it is just being European. All we ever get in 'American' comics is buffed-up superheroes and women with 5 mile legs. We may be a little spoiled by more realistic Euro artists such as Vance, Hermann and Lawrence.

    Jigounov's "Alfa", for example (AKA the style that will someday be MINE!)
    http://www.coinbd.com/images/planches/20051028201014_t8.jpeg

    It's just a matter of what the prevalent style is where you live. I don't know if you get Soda over there? It might be one of the more likely ones. But that is a really nice style I think. Very characteristic.
    http://www.dupuis.com/Planches/G/SODA-03-F-03.jpg
  • "largopredator" said:

    Let me tell you, the French? They have comics down packed.
    From the few French comics I've read, I agree. One of my friends let me borrow all of the Metabarons trade paperbacks a couple years ago, and let me tell you, it was the business.
  • One of my favorite comics: http://members.aol.com/BOPalex/

    Box Office Poison, you are awesome.
  • This is the thread where I talk about Green Lantern again.

    Green Lantern #25 came out today and wrapped up the Sinestro Corp War arc. It was a total blockbuster and just beautiful. I cannot wait for this to get collected in a hopefully oversized hardcover. And as Geoff Johns has been doing in all his books lately, we got a look ahead at what is to come:

    Spoiler:
    Summer 2009 The Black Lanterns will rise!


    Here is where I talk about the plot:

    Spoiler:
    The Cyborg Superman stuff was heartbreaking. He was introduced when I first starting reading comics hardcore, and he's been one of the few characters I've watched develop from beginning to end. But apparently, it isn't over for him. So sad. I actually feel sympathy for him.

    I don't see how Superboy Prime gets aged up to match his Countdown appearances. I guess maybe he will age in the Multiverse, and then jump back to any point in time? I'm sad that the character is going to change. But he was such an awesome superbrat while he lasted.
  • MCBurnett, I thought this week's Lying in the Gutter might interest you.

    http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/?column=13

    FLASH SPOILERS:

    Frenzied old school DC fans may be placated by another series. What I hear is... Geoff Johns, Ethan Van Sciver, “Barry Allen: Rebirth."
    Or, if you're like me, it might make you gurgle on the foamy froth of rage for awhile.
  • Ugh, I'm torn.

    On the one hand, Geoff John's run on the Flash is my all time second favorite run on a monthly book ever (next to Chuck Dixon on Nightwing). When they announced he's doing a Rogues miniseries with Scott Kolins last week, I popped about thirty boners. I have almost every single issue that team did signed. Geoff on Flash equals instant win. Plus, the book is a mess right now. What happened with Bart Allen was no doubt the worst thing ever, and ruined an incredible character. And Waid's brief revival has been boring. I'm not even going to pick up the last few issues of it.

    On the other hand, Barry Allen died long before I started regularly following comics, so Wally West has been "my" Flash all my life. I don't know Barry, and I don't want Wally to go.

    However, if this is true, and if its anything like GL: Rebirth, it'll be a revival of the entire Flash family, just the way GL: Rebirth brought back the Corp along with Hal, keeping Kyle Rayner and all the others. Maybe Barry will be coming back, and Bart along with him, and Wally will be around as well. I'd be into that. So long as Geoff started another long run on the book to make sure it worked out.
  • "MCBurnett" said:
    Ugh, I'm torn.

    On the one hand, Geoff John's run on the Flash is my all time second favorite run on a monthly book ever (next to Chuck Dixon on Nightwing). When they announced he's doing a Rogues miniseries with Scott Kolins last week, I popped about thirty boners. I have almost every single issue that team did signed. Geoff on Flash equals instant win. Plus, the book is a mess right now. What happened with Bart Allen was no doubt the worst thing ever, and ruined an incredible character. And Waid's brief revival has been boring. I'm not even going to pick up the last few issues of it.

    On the other hand, Barry Allen died long before I started regularly following comics, so Wally West has been "my" Flash all my life. I don't know Barry, and I don't want Wally to go.

    However, if this is true, and if its anything like GL: Rebirth, it'll be a revival of the entire Flash family, just the way GL: Rebirth brought back the Corp along with Hal, keeping Kyle Rayner and all the others. Maybe Barry will be coming back, and Bart along with him, and Wally will be around as well. I'd be into that. So long as Geoff started another long run on the book to make sure it worked out.
    And that's the tricky thing. If Geoff and VanSciver are only in it for the miniseries, I think this will follow the same pattern of huge sales bump followed by huge dropoff. And I'm skeptical of how well Wally will be treated. Not only have we seen what Didio thinks of extra Flashes lying around lately, but Johns himself benched Wally in the most mediocre way possible in Infinite Crisis.
  • Did you read the Flash ongoing when Johns was writing it? I think he LOVES Wally. I'm betting the benching of Wally in IC was editorially mandated. That scene was the best scene in the entire series. With Perez pencilling? And when Bart says "Uncle Barry?" I flipped out.

    Oh and today in Booster Gold:


    Spoiler:
    TED KORD LIVES
  • "MCBurnett" said:
    Did you read the Flash ongoing when Johns was writing it? I think he LOVES Wally. I'm betting the benching of Wally in IC was editorially mandated. That scene was the best scene in the entire series. With Perez pencilling? And when Bart says "Uncle Barry?" I flipped out.

    Oh and today in Booster Gold:


    Spoiler:
    TED KORD LIVES
    Saw that. Yeah, I read Johns work, and I loved it. But other than Ignition, it felt like Wally was being used to build up the Rogues instead of the other way around. And I agree that the Superboy Prime scene with Bart was cool, but the fact that Wally was the one being written out of the title for a few years made me think that he was the one who should have taken SBP to the end of the line...not get magicked away before the climax. And when you think about it, his last act on this planet was dragging his wife and newborn kids with him into oblivion instead of acting the hero like Bart. It wasn't until later that we learned he wasn't responsible for spousicide and infanticide.
  • I odn;t wanna derail anything, but I bought an issue of the power rangers comic for like 19 cents. and it was actually good.
  • Like anything Power Rangers-based could be bad.
  • "Tom" said:
    Like anything Power Rangers-based could be bad.
    V.R. Troopers was pretty Power Rangers-based.

    V.R. Troopers! Three! Virtual Ree-al-i-tee!
  • I loved VR Troopers! And Beetleborgs!
  • http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/Dreg/lessonplanmio4.jpg
  • I would WAY rather watch VR Troopers than Power Rangers. It's MUCH funnier. And the chick in that confuses the shit out of my sexuality.
  • I recently read a bunch of Bone, and jesus shit is it good. I tried to read it before, a couple of years back and was put off by the silly character design (specificly the Bone cousins looking like shaved testicles) but it just got me through many hours of installing and reinstalling windows 2000 on my new computer that I bought from a guy in a bar for a dirty jacket....
  • I have a big ol' complete tome of Bone sitting at home that I keep forgetting to read. I read the first few volumes through the library, liked it enough to buy it, and I've just never bothered to see it though to completion... shame on me.
  • Bone is awesome. It's like a more family friendly version of Lord of the Rings. One with a better story and characters.

    Someday I'm going to download the Telltale Games point-and-click adventure. The Demo seemed really faithful to the comic.
  • Final Crisis #1 this Thursday! Are you predicting a work of genius or a total clusterfuck? Or am I the only one who cares. . .
  • "MCBurnett" said:
    Final Crisis #1 this Thursday! Are you predicting a work of genius or a total clusterfuck? Or am I the only one who cares. . .
    Nope, but I will wait for the trade.
  • "MCBurnett" said:
    Final Crisis #1 this Thursday! Are you predicting a work of genius or a total clusterfuck? Or am I the only one who cares. . .
    I think it'll probably be on par with Final Crisis #0. Good fanwank for those of us who have been keeping up with the DCU, but totally inaccessible to the casual buyer.

    But I swear, if they kill off/disappear Wally yet again, I'm bailing on the single issues and tradewaiting for this one.
  • McB:

    Spoiler:
    The guy on the last page of FC is totally Barry Allen
  • Probably. I have a feeling this thing is going to disappoint a lot of people. I'm not entirely sold yet, either.

    Dan Turpin, however, was a welcome face.
  • "MCBurnett" said:
    Probably. I have a feeling this thing is going to disappoint a lot of people. I'm not entirely sold yet, either.

    Dan Turpin, however, was a welcome face.
    You know who would have been a better choice to be the token DC PI?

    Rudy West.

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/Dreg/FlashV2Annual002-08.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/Dreg/FlashV2Annual002-10.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/Dreg/FlashV2Annual002-30.jpg
  • Reading Scott Pilgrim. I like it because is fresh.
  • Kinda surprised I didn't see anyone mention Wake. It's a pretty cool hard science fiction series that deals with colonization and imperialism and such. Basically a giant fleet cruises around the galaxy looking for new worlds to colonize for the many races in the fleet. And if they ever meet a new developing species they drop a jumpgate that lets them port to the planet and back to the fleet quickly to check the progress until the species is ready to join. This lets the comic have some fun and have plots taking place in different civilization eras. i.e. feudal or industrial.

    It's from France so if you can read French I suppose you could check out the official website. However, you don't need to in order for me to tell you the artwork is colorful and imaginative.
    Possibly the biggest problem of the comic (besides the fact that I can't seem to find out if it's still being made and published in english) is the main character is a teenage girl somewhere around the age of 16. She starts off as a primal castaway with tribal paint stripes around parts of her body and is topless up until issue two. Now in America that's child pornography and they changed the white stripe across her chest to black. The point is, unless you're like me who was 14 when I found it at the library, you'll probably feel a bit uncomfortable reading this at certain points. But then I suppose we all watch anime. :P

    Wake is still worth checking out, especially if you like looking at lots of unique aliens and ships.
  • Global Frequency! Pretty cool. Wish there was more of it.
  • UK time-lag on publishing comics means its not a viable hobby if I want to follow Marvel or DC...So now I'm sitting reading the JUST published end to Marvel Civil War. Basically, i have to wait for the monthly publishing of a collection, like Avengers Unconquered or Essential X-Men.

    Or maybe I'm just missing something huge and I could actually be keeping up with the US publishing?
  • "Rhoe" said:
    UK time-lag on publishing comics means its not a viable hobby if I want to follow Marvel or DC...So now I'm sitting reading the JUST published end to Marvel Civil War. Basically, i have to wait for the monthly publishing of a collection, like Avengers Unconquered or Essential X-Men.

    Or maybe I'm just missing something huge and I could actually be keeping up with the US publishing?
    What they did to Speedball broke comics. They're broken now. There's no more.
  • So I started reading the new Power Girl and its pretty great. Basically half of the book is about Power Girl's boobs in a surprisingly well handled and hillarious way.
  • "furyk" said:
    So I started reading the new Power Girl and its pretty great. Basically half of the book is about Power Girl's boobs in a surprisingly well handled and hillarious way.
    Her boobs are well handled and hilarious?
  • I object. A subject as critical as Power Girl's boobs deserves an examination of at least an entire issue in length.
  • Paul, half of every issue is sort of about her boobs.
  • Been reading Secret Warriors and Thunderbolts. Although once Ellis left Thunderbolts the series kinda declined but i'm digging the current arc thats happening now.
    Secret Warriors has been awesome since the beginning. Fury is just too pimp
  • "Gokiburi_Chachacha" said:
    I object. A subject as critical as Power Girl's boobs deserves an examination of at least an entire issue in length.
    She has a hole in her shirt because she doesn't think she's worthy enough to have a Superman symbol there. Seriously. That's the Geoff Johns explanation. Apparently, she never thought to have regular, blank cloth there.

    I shudder to think what would happen if the entire DC Universe applied that logic.

    "HOLY FUCK, ROBIN! WHY'S YOUR COCK HANGING OUT?"

    "Because I'm not worthy enough to wear blue underwear shorts like Batman."
  • "Dreg" said:

    She has a hole in her shirt because she doesn't think she's worthy enough to have a Superman symbol there. Seriously. That's the Geoff Johns explanation. Apparently, she never thought to have regular, blank cloth there.
    What's the matter, too deep for you?

    But seriously, I read that line, and put the book down, and made a mental strike against Johns. If one is a reader of comic books, one must be prepared for a certain amount of stupid crap, but that's a bridge too far. Also, I really don't get why people even pay attention to a non-character like Power Girl. Do you really need to look that far to find another ridiculously proportioned female superhero?
  • "Spankminister" said:
    [quote="Dreg"]
    She has a hole in her shirt because she doesn't think she's worthy enough to have a Superman symbol there. Seriously. That's the Geoff Johns explanation. Apparently, she never thought to have regular, blank cloth there.
    What's the matter, too deep for you?

    But seriously, I read that line, and put the book down, and made a mental strike against Johns. If one is a reader of comic books, one must be prepared for a certain amount of stupid crap, but that's a bridge too far. Also, I really don't get why people even pay attention to a non-character like Power Girl. Do you really need to look that far to find another ridiculously proportioned female superhero?[/quote]

    Every character from before 1987 is an icon in Geoff Johns' eyes. Because they're old and stuff. So they get an enema of gravitas shoved up their ass. I hate gravitas, which is why I often only get Marvel books. Even their icons don't take themselves too seriously.

    Give me goofy any day.

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/Dreg/thorthing.jpg
  • Is that bearded guy wearing a miner's hat?
  • Is that bearded guy wearing a miner's hat?
    I'm pretty sure that's Volstagg, and his helmet has feathers sticking out of it or something? The only reason I know that is because I read Thor: Blood Oath, which was a fun and enjoyable comic booky take on the sort of legendary feats mythology is comprised of. If you're the kind to get bent out of shape that Asgardians wearing anachronistic costumes are running around with gods from other mythologies, don't read it. If you want a goofy story where a fat dude gets in a drinking contest with a giant eagle on top of the Yggdrasil, go for it.
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